May 30, 2026
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Scooter Braun is still confused to this day over his and Taylor Swift’s infamous beef after he acquired her masters.

The businessman spoke about their drama on the “Second Thought” podcast episode that dropped Thursday. He stressed that he’s had minimal interaction with the pop star, despite their very public feud.

“I don’t know Taylor Swift. I think I’ve met her in my life three times,” he said. “I have never had a substantial conversation with her in my life.”

Braun, 44, claimed Swift once invited him to a private party and that she told him she had “the utmost respect” for him, but that was the extent of their interactions.

Scooter Braun revisited his infamous feud with Taylor Swift during his appearance on the “Second Thought” podcast episode that dropped Thursday. Second Thought/YouTube
The record executive said he’s still “confused” by his beef with Swift, insisting that he doesn’t know her personally. Second Thought/YouTube

“I will never truly understand that situation. To this day, I wish her nothing but the best,” he insisted.

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“People are usually shocked to find out that I legitimately don’t know her and didn’t have many interactions with her and never really knew her.”

Braun said his beef with the singer turned him into “a villain” overnight, but that in the end, he learned from the situation.

“I think what it did bring to light is that artists are going to start wanting to own their masters, and I think you’re seeing artists more and more do that, and I think that’s great,” he said.

Braun said he’s only had one brief conversation with Swift (she’s pictured here in October 2021), in which they shared their mutual respect for one another. Getty Images for The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
But Swift (seen here in November 2025) accused Braun of being a bully to her in a scathing 2019 Tumblr post in which she said she was devastated that he had acquired her masters. GC Images

Braun’s feud with Swift, 36, dates back to 2019 when he bought the rights to her first six albums — “Taylor Swift,” “Fearless,” “Speak Now,” “Red,” “1989” and “Reputation” — from her former record label, Big Machine Records, without her approval.

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In a scathing 2019 Tumblr post, Swift shared that she was devastated that her master recordings had been sold off to Braun in a $300 million deal.

“Scooter has stripped me of my life’s work, that I wasn’t given an opportunity to buy,” she wrote. “Essentially, my musical legacy is about to lie in the hands of someone who tried to dismantle it.”

She also claimed she had suffered “incessant, manipulative bullying at his hands” for years through his former clients Justin Bieber and Kanye West.

After Braun sold her masters to Shamrock Capital, Swift (pictured here in December 2024) was able to buy her masters back from the investment firm. Getty Images for TAS Rights Management
Braun — seen here in October 2021 — said he was “happy” for Swift after she bought back her masters in a statement to Page Six. Getty Images for The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

Investment firm Shamrock Capital ended up purchasing Swift’s music from Braun in November 2020.

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In May 2025, Swift announced she bought back her masters from Shamrock Capital — after re-recording four of her past albums as a way to reclaim her music.

“I almost stopped thinking it could ever happen, after 20 years of having the carrot dangled and then yanked away,” she wrote in an emotional message to her fans posted on her website. “But that’s all in the past now. I’ve been bursting into tears of joy at random intervals ever since I found that this is really happening. I really get to say those words.”

“All of the music I’ve ever made … now belongs… to me.”

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